"How-To" - Whip

[The Snitz]

wat the easyest way 2 do whips?



The secret to a whip starts well before you even hit the jump! Keep this in mind.

When you're approaching the jump, depending on which way you like to whip your bike (Generally most people whip to the right hand side) You should approach the jump to the side of where you are normally going up. So you have the line up the ramp where you jump normally, If you want to whip, you should stick just to the side of the line, preferably about 6 inches either side.

As you approach, your coming in off the side of the normal line and when you start to hit the ramp, simply turn the bike back into the middle of the ramp. When your about halfway up the ramp, then begin to turn your body to the left hand side, so that the bike will start to slide out to the right hand of the ramp. This means that as soon as you leave the ramp, you will be already in a whipped position, which means you don't have to really man-handle the bike. This is how the pro's get their whips up so high, the further they twist their body up the ramp, the bigger their whips will be.

Here is a frame of a little movie of me as I'm hitting the ramp and twisting my body up the top of the ramp -

[The Snitz]

Once you're in the air, use your legs to control the bike. When beginning whips, don't go to big, just keep it within your limits. Just twist your body a fraction to the left, and when you feel you've whipped enough for your liking... Turn your body back in towards the bike to center the bike. Use your legs also to pull the back end of the bike back towards a "center line"

You have to Imagine that the bike is riding a centre line all through the jump. When you want to land, remember to bring the bike back to centre to make sure of the landing.

If for some reason your body movement can't bring the bike back centre, give the throttle a "Panic Rev". This will help bring the bike back into the centre also.

[The Snitz]

Advanced -

So you've got the idea for getting the bike whipped out, and you would like to get the bike flatter?

Remember the first thing I said... It all depends on how you approach the ramp and how much you turn the bike up the ramp.

Come into the ramp further to the left or right from the centre line than you would for smaller whips. Once you've hit the ramp, turn your body as hard as you can to either side to slide the bike out up the ramp. Hopefully this will send you out quite flat as soon as you leave the ramp.

Now once you're in the air, body control is most important. To flatten the bike out in the whip, lean your body to the side as far as you can, and try to look downwards. This will pull the front of the bike down, whilst the back of the bike will still be in the process of coming up.

Once your flat, you really need to use your legs to bring the bike back down and into a centre position. Whilst doing this you will more than likely need to give the bike a good rev in the air to help do this. Point your head up and into the direction of the landing and your body will help the bike track back into the centre for a nice smoothe landing

Here Chad Reed shows us a perfect flat whip concentrating his eyes on the ramp and using his body to direct the bike -

Copyright © Steve Sommerfeld 2004 All Rights Reserved.

[stavross]

steve cannot whip peolpe, donot follow his advice.

[The Snitz]

LOL!!!

[FrEe_ RiDiNg]

pretty sick when i get the balls to hit a ramp ill try it but that wont be for a long time im afraid

[mulisha_mike]

so what even if he cant whip that is perfect how to do it according to my trick book thing that i bought. to bad that is the only trick in it that isnt to advanced for me

[The Snitz]

;) He's joking, I can whip :)I wouldn't be telling people how to do these tricks if I personally can't do them, otherwise you wouldn't be getting the proper advice on exactly how to go about them

Anyway, as long as it sounds about right that somone else has written then I must have explained it well enough then :) If you can't understand it, let me know and I'll clarify for you

[pic_takin_chick]

nah steve u have it all wrong!! First you get cream, add sugar and whip till it forms stiff peaks, geez where'd you learn to cook??

[Mungoman45]

Originally posted by pic_takin_chick
nah steve u have it all wrong!! First you get cream, add sugar and whip till it forms stiff peaks, geez where'd you learn to cook??

no no no, 1ST...you get zee suger, then you get zee power, then you get zee women :smoker2:

haha, always a quote to be had. Killer Guides Steve my man, i just hope by the time ya right arm heals ya havent got RSI in the other from writtin all these :p lol.

[twothreesix]

Nice advise on the whips. U got ne thing on turndowns??:D

[The Snitz]

LOL @ Lisa and Brad :D!!!
And yes blackflag I do, check out turndown whips here: http://www.fmxaustralia.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3354

[deathtroop666]

i tried to do a whip today but i missed the downramp cause its too skinny!! lucky its only a 5 foot high ramp and 30 foot gap

[The Snitz]

Oooh, No good mate.
lol the key is to make sure you have adequate "Ramp-age"
Make sure you have a fairly wide downramp at least when practising Whips, because sometimes like you just said, you'll miss the downramp. Post pics up of your Whip successes :D

[AdrenalneJnky]

Ive noticed the guys that whip their bikes REALLY HARD(Like Urek & Twitch)the back of the bike comes so far forward and looks insane-although Im no where near that stage,just curious how they whip the back around so far???

[Mx_Rider105]

first u have to hit the ramp on abit of an angle then try push ur bak end out to the side wit ur foot and lean the side how u want it to go like here is an example in the pic of bubba doin r whip one handed but still its r whip on the kx250 on his practise track ITS PRETTY MAD U HAVE TO HAVE THE PIC..... then tell me wat u think of the pic i think its crazy :D

[The Snitz]

G'day Adrenaline Junky, whipping the bike hard is almost all in the way you approach the ramp. As you can see in the picture of Bubba Stewart, he has the bike already completely sideways as soon as he leaves the ramp. As I've probably explained in this guide and the Turndown Whips guide, when you approach the ramp, try ride up the side of it either left or right side, but aim for the top of the opposite corner with your front wheel. When your halfway up, try turn your body back to the corner you came from, this is what gives the momentum of whipping the back of the bike out when you leave the ramp. You then just need to push harder with your legs to get the back up and then pushing it back down to the ground
But yeah, it's all about practise. Read the guide over a couple of times and read the "How-To - Turndown" And you'll hopefully get the idea ;)

Steve :afro:

[zach4161]

what about on a freestyle ramp...cause it's so skinny...i tried the other day..and i crashed ********

[#000]

There's more than one way to skin a cat steve my good man...

Errr opps i mean whip a bike haha...

I do everything the same as u until u get to the twist u'r body bit... i'll try and explain what i do... keep in mind im explaining all this as if im whiping it out to the right...

1. as u'r leaving the lip, instead of twisting my body like steve explained, i drop my entire body wieght to the inside of the bike (the left side), into sorta a squating position if u will...

2. this makes the top of u'r bike follow ur body wieght making the bike flat'n out as u do this pull the handle bars down and towards u this will make the bike 'cross up'...

3. u'll be at the peek of u'r jump by now and its time to start straight'ning up

4. to straighten the bike simply straight'n up u'r body and get back on top of the bike ( i usualy pin the thortell at this stage)

5. if all went to plan u should be straight enough to land, land wif the gas on to give u drive and ride away...

Like steve said start small and work up to it...

If u can't understand what i've just said look at Kevin Whindham's or Duag Parsons's whips that's the style i'm trying to explain... more pancaked than cross'd up if u get what im say'n :D

[rmrider]

hers wut i do

as im goin up the lip i might be goin a little off in the direction i whip (i dont worry about that part to much as im not throwin down crazy whips, pretty flat/sideways), just before i leave the ramp i lean over the upper part of my body and drop my shoulder down while turning the bars in the same direction (to get the extra momentum to swing the bck end around).. i also twist my hips a little bit so that i get on top of the bike, then i push the bars down and away from me so that it kicks the back end out more.. by this time the back is going out sideways so i usually bring it back by straightenin up my body and blipping the throttle a couple times to spin the wheel and pull it in.. the secret to learning whips is to remember that your not actually throwing the bike out and controlling it (thats how you see the famous no handed and no footed whips, once u get the "swing" to it keeps going until you decide to stop it), you basically let momentum swing the back end around and then yu straighten it out at the end.. somethin else that helps is to remember that your going to want your front end down when you land, this means ur pushin ur whips pretty good.. you will see what i mean when ya'll try it and get good, this is also why i blip it in the air cause the front end gets really low and it just pulls it up nice.. its a good feelin when u throw down a perfect whip and feel your front end lower then its ever been (unless you endo :confused: then thats no fun)


ill get the vids as soon as my friend send them to me.. im doin it off a rev 1 (with a little more pop to it)


heres the jump

[rmrider]

oh yeah, if your doin it off a track jump u can do the same thing but its gunna be a lot harder since there isnt the same air time usually.. so if u jus wanna tweak out the back end just twist your hips on the lip and push your bars straight across in front of you so that it it pushes it out..

[rmrider]

Thats not my whips, just showin ya the jump so u no basically what kind of air tme u need to do it.. thats me in both of those pics, when i get the vids ill post them


PS - watch out ive landed on the far side of the landing and get pretty close to going off it.. i cant wait to get teh vids, their from last week 8/08/04

[sik_50]

i have only just got the hang of whips and this is how i do them. i come at the upramp on a bit of an angle. just as my front wheel is leaving the top i push down on my left foot on start to bend my knees so the bike can go flat. then wen u lay it as flat as you wont snap back the other way on your handle bars and hopefully ride away.

[1madgerman]

Nice advice steve this is where it got me.

[freewheel burn]

thats a sweet as whip.. i gotta learn them

[#000]

Originally posted by 1madgerman
Nice advice steve this is where it got me.

Yes u'r whips may be big, but err, umm, ahh, u smell bad!!

[rmrider]

heres some pics of me from today...

http://members.rogers.com/tojcic2/ramp/Image15.jpg
http://members.rogers.com/tojcic2/ramp/Image27.jpg
http://members.rogers.com/tojcic2/ramp/Image36.jpg
http://members.rogers.com/tojcic2/ramp/_ye2.jpg

[1madgerman]

Hey Joel bro you still up for this whip comp next we ride together?
yeh wats wrong with not showering.
That hart in your thing looks huge looks like u have discovered how to straighten you other arm Woo Hoo!!
lars

[DirtCowboy]

god damn lars man you throwing them whip down HUGE!!!! man top stuff good to steves effort with all these how tos has not gone to waste

[sik_50]

keep practicing rmrider that the only way you'll get better

[FoXRaCiNG.2]

when eva i do a whip a find it hard to bring it back

[The Snitz]

Yeah you will find that when first beginning whips... You need to use your legs alot to direct the bike around in the air.

As you leave the ramp, you will start to whip the bike, position your body so you can easily push your leg against the side of the bike, so when you have whipped the bike as far as you want to go, you can pull hard on the inside of your leg and it will push the bike back to the centre. You will notice alot of riders with their outside leg pointed up off the bike a bit, that is because they are putting alot of effort into bringing the bike back.

Have a try at that mate

Steve :afro:

[PARFMAN]

just throw tha thang sideways an rev that guts out of it... wooop

i dont :)

ras

[FoXRaCiNG.2]

cheers steve. if i wasnt sick i'd go out and bust some whips

[sik_50]

whips feel sick...from my point of view

[wicked289]

just wondering if any of you have 50's do you find it harder to whip on a 50 or a big bike.

[sik_50]

just wondering if any of you have 50's do you find it harder to whip on a 50 or a big bike.

i reckon my 50 is way easier to whip than when i used 2 ride big bikes. 50s are so much lighter you can just tuck them up and lay em flat.

[gloverfmx411]

50s are so much easyier to whip, most times when i actually throw out a whip big it goes 85-90degree but when i use to try on big bike it would only just kick out a little bit.

[...HOLLIS...]

here is a pic of a lil turndown.. i just hit the jump sorta pullin to 1 side on the upramp and just pull round and look back to get the bike to whip out further then look back when i pull em back... it feels so good lookin round in the air ...

[Freestyle-Moto]

i reckon steve should be a crusty

[Pro_shorty686]

i no this an old thread but how big or far should u be jumpin to do a whip?

[FrEe_ RiDiNg]

u dont realli have to jump that far u can do a short but but i think its just better if u get more air cauz u get more hold n easier n safer.

[Pro_shorty686]

righto...i jump 30ft off a natural hit with small "lip" would this be enough

[FrEe_ RiDiNg]

ure not trying to urek are u lol?? i dunno but 30foot would be 10 metres aint it and thats enough to get it close to flat or flat depending if ure good enough n that. but u dont realli need a fat gap have u tried on that nat terrain hit.

[...HOLLIS...]

heres flat of an 8mtr dub..... just lean on the upramp make sure u feel comftable

[mcrkrew]

I got my whips happenin yesterday, 3rd pin on a natural hit, i found that getting it out was pretty easy getting sideways, just has to commit to leaning over on your way up the upramp, but i was hacin trouble gettin em back in.. im real happy i got me though! :Z440:

[HILLIER]

whips are one of the hardest tricks to do an perform correctly an make it look good.... the more u ride the easyer an more knowledge you will have about whips an how ur bike likes to whip

[#000]

mmmmmm whips are fun :D

[FrEe_ RiDiNg]

hey mate a good way i use to pull big whips in with sometimes is just jumping whipping and then pulling the front end up whilst brake checkin.....im not sure how this works but jus experiment wif your bike...... when i whip i never have to break check or anything..... just use my weight and control of the bike to work it all out.
so just try play with your bike as much as u can. it will come naturally i reckon...

[mackafmx]

hey any1 got any tips how to whip bigger

[phat_pat]

http://www.fmxaustralia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3307 There you go mate, welcome to the site :Z33:

Pat

[HILLIER]

i can whip.... its not somethin you can learn buy just reading a how to guide,
its all to do with bike control an how much u ride. an where you ride...

if you keep riding an keep your bike skill/control up youll be able to experiment with whips more...

this how mine are these days, so just keep ridin an keep playin with shit. the more skill you have the more youll lay into it off the ramp an the bigger your whip will be bro!
Peace
\Ras

also i added a turndown shot

[scrap kid]

and having your waight to one side of the bike the side you to.. and turning a bit up the ramp but like rhys said it is something u have to find out ur self through time on the bike and riding all kind of jumps and being fully confident on the jump u are doing its more by feel rather than other tricks where its like grab here push here blah blah.. but the main point is a whip is done on the ramp not just jump then try push ur bike out.. hope this helps buddy

peace brock

[flangin-muddy_1]

Hey everyone
I was at louee and freeflight the other day and was tryin to get some whips off some jumps. i really need help with what im meant to be doing. im going off 40-60ft jumps and attemptin to lean the bike and turn the bars and look back with all my force but the bike aint going hardly anywhere! i tried to do wat the pros do and rev as they turn to see if that workd and the front wheel just shot up and the bike almost flippd backwards as i landed!
can any one give me any advice? please?
i no a whip is a personal thing and evryone dus it their own way but i cant do it at all! ive even tried hittin the upramp at an angle but it didnt make any diffrence?
please help!!

Thanks,
Sam

[AdrenalneJnky]

Search dude,theres a thread for basically everything in this section...HERE (http://www.fmxaustralia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3307) ya go..

-Pete:Z1:

[flangin-muddy_1]

ahh fair enough
thanks

[Pro_shorty686]

i sorta pull back on the bars and lean side way + back at the same time hope that helps????

[cazza17]

the acedemy of off road riding tort me to whip before ur in the air so on the face of the jump sorta turn and lean or do like a table top (bmx trick) on the face then like turn and the bike should whip it works for me

[Pro_shorty686]

yeah i do that on my bmx, i was wondering why i could turn the bmx properly and the moto just leans on an angle funny

[flangin-muddy_1]

k sweet ill give it a go next time im out.
its annoying tho coz sometimes it feels big but its actually a really small whip lol

[weeman_911]

yo on my mtb i can whip huge but its definately harder on moto. also i went dam jumpin on bmx and its easier 2 whip than mtb. in2 tha dam i can almost whip as big as ronie renner! just keep practicing coz thats wot i do and i get better at all 3 types of bikes

[scott_855]

ah so thats how you do it, i had been tryin them off my old ramp and wat i was doing was i would go up normally then turn a little bit at the top and lean over, i would get a little sideways but nothing to great, i will try this your way steve off my comp ramp wen i build a wider downy

[flangin-muddy_1]

in my avatar thing is as big as i can get em at the moment.
flatlining the bike on the upramp helps it heaps

[-=CrOfTy=-]

mmm i was tryin ova a lil jump and yeh i was trynna whip it b4 i levae the lip and then i got told to turn the bars the oppisite ways like a cross up, and that works heaps it juz like moves the bike for ya, really compfortable aswell. havnt got any pics.. that was ages ago havnt tried since then lol

[briggsy]

Whips??? yeah not many people can do a decent whip... travis cant even whip and hes one of the best in the world. its all about body positioning on the bike, the way you leave the ramp and the way you move your weight on the bike... my suggestions watch a vid with some1 like carmicheal or renner in it and check out the way they lean, approach the jump/ramp,move on the bike, take a bit more speed into it to if your goin for a huge whip you tend to wash off speed through whips and ive seen some nasty crashes off whip. well get out there and try em let us know how you go goodluck


renners the man to see but fricken maniac at whips keep tryin let us know how you go practice makes perfect

[kerlie]

hey boyz my whips arnt great yet either but sumthin that definetly helps is using ure inside leg as much as possible sorta push out with it

[rip_jp]

i jst throw the bike around and jump on an angle !!! watch fmxers go up the ramp when the whip they actually turn heaps !!!

[weeman_911]

when i get to almost the lip of the jump i lean backwards on an angle and that helps bring the bike around and to get back i turn and lean to the other side

[FrEe_ RiDiNg]

i see you ride at appin n mx and that. get as much speed as possible and before u leave the up ramp, snap your bars to the right and lean ure right leg and pull on your left arm. you can do this to keep low or show off as i do most of the time. lol
make sure ure going fast enough to overjump the jump when u do this and make sure u build up to it.
oh and pull ure right arm in aswell and ull get ureself in a sick body position for it aswell.
when ure jumping the centre at appin main track just take inside line runnup and jump from either the inside or middle line runup and take weight of the right leg and you will automatically throw it out.
be carefull might get too much out.
hope i helped. give the snap ago over the step down and the other jumps.
its a great filling aswell.

[Alistair]

dude anyone and everyone will tell u how to do whips, but really it all comes down to just trying to do them and then soon u will start to get the hang of it. It's just one of those things u gotta learn to do urself

Though make sure u grip with ur legs, have fun

[HILLIER]

Yeh what allistair said i think.. it all comes with personal technique and confidence.. how much u can lay it over on the ramp an how much you will alow it to get flat an sideways.... experiment different ways an styles...
RAS

[flangin-muddy_1]

cheers everyone, gota giv all these things ago next ride.
oi free_riding did u say u had seen me out at appin before?
cheers
sam

[FrEe_ RiDiNg]

lol i would of prob seen ya out their bro..
even if not will catch up for a ride some time.

[flangin-muddy_1]

lol ok
sounds good man

[stavross]

your trying to whip it to the left in the pic?....

looking at your avatar it looks like your forcing the bike to much once you leave the ramp.. its all in the ramp/take off. just carve it and once your off push your knee into the tank and turn the bars the way you want to whip

[code_92]

soon enought ya will be able to do it like this ^^^^^ lol i can not do whips for crap

cheers code

[pointless]

i only just worked it out for me. i would try to whip the same way as all my friends and then i tried the other way for sum reason and it was heaps easier for me. maybe give different direction ago.

[Kai Turnermator]

first u have to hit the ramp on abit of an angle then try push ur bak end out to the side wit ur foot and lean the side how u want it to go like here is an example in the pic of bubba doin r whip one handed but still its r whip on the kx250 on his practise track ITS PRETTY MAD U HAVE TO HAVE THE PIC..... then tell me wat u think of the pic i think its crazy :D


omg i was gunna make that my signature, im gunna have to now!

[weeman_911]

because ive been home sick most of these first two weeks of school i have been watching some of the crusty movies and what i have figured from watching those riders do whips time and time again is this: a whip that flows looks cool! what i mean by this is if your whip flows off the rap it looks cool but if your whip sort of jumps and doesnt move much it doesnt look as good

[H@RTWIG]

for all those people that still cant do this, i think the whip is somthing that you cannot read and then do it takes alot of experimenting and practice to get good at it.

you really have to just figure it out for yourself.

but thats the best damn description on how to do a whip i have ever heard.

good work snitz,
charlz

[Bones]

hay all. i have read this thread over and over and am still feeling pretty stupid as i dont quite understand. so if you are to whip out to the right you will start 6 inches to the left side of your centre line, as you go up the ramp, turn the wheel to the right so the bike will fall left. then turn your shoulders to the left as well to push the back wheel out.

this is how i have understood it but i still dont know if its right, i just dont want to go out and try it to find out that its completly wrong and have a big stack.

if anyone could just clarify this for me, correct me or whatever that would be awesome.

thanks, Tony.

[bear_beckett]

umm yeah kinda like that man
what i do is just go up the ramp slightly off centre and whip it the opposite way to the way im facing.. or u could just turn ur bars hard and lean with the bike, that;ll whip it out.. but if u wana get complicated , put all ur weight on the peg that will be facing the up ramp.. hope that wasnt too hard to understand..
chris

[allbonesbroken]

whips just don;t come over night u just got to keep at them and ull get the hang

[phat_pat]

hay all. i have read this thread over and over and am still feeling pretty stupid as i dont quite understand. so if you are to whip out to the right you will start 6 inches to the left side of your centre line, as you go up the ramp, turn the wheel to the right so the bike will fall left. then turn your shoulders to the left as well to push the back wheel out.

this is how i have understood it but i still dont know if its right, i just dont want to go out and try it to find out that its completly wrong and have a big stack.

if anyone could just clarify this for me, correct me or whatever that would be awesome.

thanks, Tony.
I also found it helps alot to sit at the front of the bike, this helps the ass end float around better.

[METAL_MULISHA13]

reading on the computer will not help, go out and try it....

80% of the time if you go try it.. you will get it.. reading on the computer helps but actually going out and trying it works!

[125sx kid]

i got my whips sussed out this weekend at stanmore mx track. not the big extended whips but the tail whip type thing. gonna keep pracicing till i can go huge

[jacko]

to do a big whip you come in on the left/right hand corner and take off from the same corner but you got to go as far to the oppisite side of the ramp as what you take off and leave to... and seat bounce and fall off the side of the bike and pull it down with you then get up right before you land.... lol got that?? you sould basicly use the whole ramp...

[allbonesbroken]

depends on wat u like but sometimes turning your bad against the whip or into it helps aswell when i get to the point of stoping it whip out i turn my bars on lock then hold it for a second and bring it back in

[J@$0n_199]

the best way to learn how to whip is go and learn em on small jumps and push them bigger and bigger. evryone whips with thier own style

[125sx kid]

thats what i plan to do :)

[bikinipatrol]

QUOTE=briggsy]travis cant even whip and hes one of the best in the world.

I just don't quite think this is a fair statement. I've seen travis huck it pretty big mate. :Z376:

[Robbo66]

Start on smaller jumps. But don't expect to get it flat over a small jump.

This is how much I lean to get my bike flat..

[MikeyFMX]

well the answer is simple... Readikng about it aint gona help.. I cant throw down a big whip or nufin. But i sure arnt gona be doing them reading about it.. Just time on the bike man and itl come slowly.. its cumin 2 me..

[...HOLLIS...]

Here a few sketchy picds of my whips from today.. If u practice fooling around with your bike in the air it gets easier.. funnest thing to do ona bike is whip

[KORUPT-FMX]

i can whip / turndown huge of dirt! but when i hit the ramp i cant wot so ever, and it flicks me the other way out................

[Ash_SKIN_fmx]

looks like il have to teach u ey ben hahaha

hold it at idle

[FMXmitch69751]

cant remember where i got this .. but its a pretty good example of a whip..

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ozl3co80Ci4

[250rider]

cant remember where i got this .. but its a pretty good example of a whip..

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ozl3co80Ci4

james stuart is the best wipper ive ever seen

[Yammy 125]

SORRI this is a real old thread but just wondering if u use the handle bars at all?
ive seen many people whip and they seem to be usin there handle bars?
I carnt realli try cause im in hukin plaster

[Yammy 125]

no smart comments lol i just realised it sound kinda wrong

[JoNy.B]

thats some good advice...thanx man.

[FmxJoshie]

i find u use the handlebars... but it helps to lean alot up the ramp to help position you to whip it out... a quick twist of the bars to the way that u prefer to whip also seems to help kick it out... duno this is just my interpretation.. then pull the bars and get the front whell facing the correct direction and a lil throttle in the air never hurt anybody... u will be all sweet

[ktm_rider69]

thats sweet advice after i sell my bike n get a bigger 1 il try it

[Snowy#170]

If I do a stand up whip it's to the left, and if I do a sit down whip it's to the right.

Not much has been said about sit down whips so I'll throw in my 2 cents.

I do my stand up whips pretty much like Steve described.
But with my sit down whips it a lil different.
Basicly when your sitting sown it's easier to lean the bike over. You come in at an angle just like Steve said, but I imagine I'm riding a road bike and I'm leaning into a corner. You can even sit your bum a bit to the opposite side to the direction of the whip. Then your body will be lower in the whip and you can drag the bike down with you.

Here is a pic that shows what line I'm taking on the ramp. I come in from the the left and end up on the right side using a nice arc.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/snowy170/Bikes/Ramp2.jpg


And here is a lil sequence. The pics are taken from different jumps, but you get the idea.
I'm not very leaned over here because the ramp is a bit slippery : (

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/snowy170/Bikes/Sequence1.jpghttp://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/snowy170/Bikes/Sequence2.jpghttp://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/snowy170/Bikes/Sequence3.jpghttp://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/snowy170/Bikes/Sequence4.jpghttp://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/snowy170/Bikes/Sequence5.jpghttp://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/snowy170/Bikes/Sequence6.jpg


Another way to whip which is good on motocross tracks is to come in way too fast and soak it up.
on a 3rd gear 3 quarter throttle table top I would come in 3rd gear tapped, back off 5-10 metres before the base of the up ramp and then you lean it over as you would for a regular whip. You can get quite aggressive using this style because your not going to get sideways under power on the up ramp.

Here's an example.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/snowy170/Bikes/Whip4-1.jpg

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Another way to whip which is good on motocross tracks is to come in way too fast and soak it up.
on a 3rd gear 3 quarter throttle table top I would come in 3rd gear tapped, back off 5-10 metres before the base of the up ramp and then you lean it over as you would for a regular whip. You can get quite aggressive using this style because your not going to get sideways under power on the up ramp.

Here's an example.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/snowy170/Bikes/Whip4-1.jpg
thats pretty much the same as i do whips over dirt jumps , can really get flat doing it also, really flat !!!
tried it over a ramp but just dosnt work as good lol